On Sunday night, Mayor Bill de Blasio appeared as himself — in animated form — on “The Simpsons,” his second time on the show.
Mr. de Blasio does not pop up frequently in television shows or films, although he has made cameos on “The Good Wife,” a favorite of the mayor and his wife, Chirlane McCray. He also appeared, as he may now regret, on “Horace and Pete,” a niche barroom comedy created by Louis C.K., whose political support Mr. de Blasio had embraced until the comedian admitted to sexual misconduct last year.
The mayor’s second appearance on “The Simpsons,” however, is part of a longer-standing personal relationship with the show. He loves it. (His first appearance was a live-action cameo for the 2017 mock-documentary episode, “Springfield of Dreams: Legend of Homer Simpson.”)
Before Sunday’s episode aired, Mr. de Blasio, a Democrat, talked by phone about why he thinks “The Simpsons” is an “amazing American institution,” the role it played in the antinuclear power movement and why he is not bothered that it airs on Fox.
The interview has been condensed and edited.
Q. How did this appearance on the show tonight come about? I hear you’re carrying Grandpa Simpson.
A. They originally came to me around an episode that referenced New York, this was a while back. Then they came back and said they had this episode where Grandpa comes to New York City and they wanted to do an encounter with me. I was like: Anything “Simpsons,” I’m into.
When you get invited into something that you truly love and truly admire, it’s like an otherworldly feeling — like crossing over into a new realm. The line between fact and fiction gets a little blurred. Are we real and the show is fake, or the other way around?
Do you have a line in the show?
I’m not sure I remember it perfectly, but it was basically a height joke.
What’s your favorite episode?
I love “The Simpsons” because it’s subversive. It’s incredibly funny and constantly smart and insightful about this country.
I think the episode where Sideshow Bob runs for mayor is sort of the ultimate critique — obviously that one is all about the Willie Horton ad and the 1988 presidential election — and it lays bare so much hypocrisy in one episode. That’s probably my all-time favorite.
Which member of “The Simpsons” family do you most identify with?
Well, it’s kind of hard not to love Bart the most. I would say an honorable mention to Maggie. She’s often the voice of reason even though she can’t speak.
So you see yourself in Bart and not in the more cerebral Lisa?
Look, you’ve got to admire Lisa’s earnestness and that she’s kind of the sane member of the ship of fools. But I think Bart, to me sort of heart and soul-wise, the spunk and the spirit and the willingness to disrupt — I’m more emotionally moved by Bart.
Interesting. When did you start watching the show?
Early on. When it started. From the beginning.
In the show, politicians are craven, corrupt and incompetent. What is it that resonates with you about the show’s vision?
First of all, it totally parodies what’s wrong with the political system and what’s wrong with many politicians. Mayor Quimby is just an epic character because he is kind of the composite of everything wrong with traditional politics.
He’s a Democrat, don’t you think?
Oh, I’m certain. It’s a Kennedy rip off, obviously. But it’s brilliant.
There’s a rejection of a lot of status quo in there that I appreciate. And, of course, there’s a beautiful humanist element to the show. They figured out how to tell a lot of truth in a way that was light enough for people to get it, but still really edgy.
I was very involved in the movement against nuclear power early on. I marched at Three Mile Island after the incident in 1979. The portrayal of nuclear power in “The Simpsons” literally was one of the most important elements of changing America’s trajectory on nuclear power. There’s lots of things that happened, don’t get me wrong — I’m not trying to say “Simpsons” first — but they were actually a part of it.
Mayor Quimby agrees to build a monorail after a huckster sells him on it. Could a monorail solve New York City’s transit problems?
If Mayor Quimby likes it, I don’t like it. That’s my rule of thumb in life.
Some people see the BQX, a proposed light rail line to link Brooklyn and Queens, as a kind of monorail.
I think it’s a very different reality, to say the least. And look, we’ll veer into seriousness for a moment, the BQX is based on a national movement to light rail that’s been working — Oklahoma City, Salt Lake City, L.A. All over the country people are turning to light rail for good reason.
That was part of the argument for the monorail: “Look, it worked in the towns of Brockway, Ogdenville and North Haverbrook. It could work in Springfield too!”
I love that. You’ve done your research.
Homer really didn’t like New York City and called it a place where “once the sun goes down, all the weirdos turn crazy.”
I thought that was one of the few moments where I disagreed with “The Simpsons.” But remember that episode — which I happened to see again recently — everyone else in the family loves New York. They’re all having an amazing time. It’s like a love letter to New York in so many other ways. It’s reverent toward New York for everyone but Homer.
If you could take Homer anywhere in New York City to change his mind, where would it be?
Oh wow. That’s one of those questions that will have me thinking all day long.
Homer needs to see the beauty of our people so I would take him to my barbershop. I would take him to Astor haircutters to see all the different peoples of the world getting along.
By going on “The Simpsons,” do you worry about appearing to lend support to Fox, given your longstanding critique of Fox News?
No, I don’t. I think on the news side that Rupert Murdoch has very systematically worked to move America rightward and to create a lot of division. I’ve said quite openly that I don’t think there would be a Donald Trump as president without Rupert Murdoch.
But on the entertainment side, I have to acknowledge they have done some extraordinary work that doesn’t seem to conform with the ideology of the news side: “Sleepy Hollow,” which Chirlane and I love, an extraordinary show and obviously beautiful portrayal of an interracial couple. That was Fox.
I don’t know if you saw “Pitch” last year?
It actually was produced by an old friend of ours Eli Attie, who was a speechwriter for Dinkins with Chirlane back when. If I see something that I think is really moving and meaningful I’m not going to hold it against everyone involved that they happen to work for Fox.
I was once a big fan of “The Simpsons” but basically stopped watching 15 years ago. Do you still watch and is it still relevant?
Oh yeah, I think it’s totally relevant. Certainly when the kids were into it, we would watch more. Dante in particular is a huge “Simpsons” fan.
I still watch it sometimes because, you know, I see an episode I find particularly interesting. Like I saw one the other day which, I don’t know when it’s from, but it was the New Springfield versus the Old Springfield — which is like the ultimate tale of two cities episode. It was a brilliant breakdown of class division.
How did you come upon it?
I just saw it. Sometimes I’ll channel surf and I just saw it and I said, “I’ve got to check this out."
I don’t picture you as a channel surfer.
I don’t get a lot of downtime, so one of the things that happens is, I have a plan with Chirlane, like we’re going to watch TV at this particular hour, we know what we want to watch together.
But if it’s just like a little break time in an evening, I’ll just randomly check out what’s on.
What was your reaction to the controversy around the character of Apu, the convenience store owner voiced by Hank Azaria?
I fundamentally believe that the people behind the show did not mean to offend. But what they should do is give other actors a chance to play a role like that. I think the character is pretty intrinsic to the show, but let an Indian-American actor have the opportunity to play that voice.
Is your trip to Springfield part of a 2020 run?
Very clever. Unless I’m crazy, I’m not in Springfield in it. I thought I was in New York City.
Oh, are you? I haven’t seen the episode yet so I assumed you’d gone traveling.
What I would say for anyone who wants to be president of the United States, Springfield is an obvious stop.
We could talk about this for much longer, but I know you’ve got to run.
I guess I’d better get back to governing.
Will you be watching the episode in Gracie tonight?
Oh yes indeed. This is the high point of 2019 already for me.B:
【等】【南】【宫】【裳】【做】【完】【这】【一】【切】【出】【来】，【就】【闻】【见】【客】【厅】【里】【一】【股】【饭】【菜】【的】【香】【味】【飘】【散】【在】【空】【气】【里】。 【厨】【房】【里】，【清】【隽】【的】【少】【年】【像】【是】【刚】【做】【完】，【在】【取】【下】【围】【裙】，【顺】【手】【挂】【在】【一】【侧】。 【本】【就】【好】【看】【的】【颜】，【现】【在】【就】【更】【好】【看】【了】。 【南】【宫】【裳】【盯】【得】【目】【不】【转】【睛】。 【别】【看】【装】【的】【稳】【重】，【内】【心】【却】【是】【在】【叫】【嚣】。 【偶】【像】【是】【我】【男】【朋】【友】【了】！ 【我】【有】【男】【朋】【友】【了】。 【男】【朋】【友】【成】……
“【君】【上】，【君】【皇】【妃】。”【无】【欢】【在】【混】【乱】【之】【中】【受】【了】【伤】，【赶】【到】【暗】【夜】【绝】【身】【边】，【凌】【晓】【晓】【看】【了】【他】【一】【眼】，【扔】【给】【他】【一】【瓶】【丹】【药】，【那】【是】【根】【据】【暗】【夜】【绝】【他】【们】【修】**【法】【不】【一】【样】，【专】【门】【研】【制】【的】【药】。 【无】【欢】【接】【住】，【看】【了】【一】【眼】【凌】【晓】【晓】，【赶】【紧】【道】【谢】：“【多】【谢】【君】【皇】【妃】。” “【让】【是】【守】【在】【外】【面】【的】【人】【撤】【走】【吧】。” “【这】【里】【我】【们】【不】【管】【了】【吗】？” 【凌】
【再】【次】【听】【到】【这】【个】【名】【字】，【让】【苏】【然】【的】【眉】【头】【紧】【蹙】。 【和】【九】【曲】【关】【系】【不】【一】【般】【的】【人】，【让】【狄】【烨】【都】【有】【几】【分】【忌】【惮】【的】【人】，【又】【是】【这】【些】【假】【苏】【然】【的】【统】【辖】【之】【人】。 【这】【个】【银】【环】【到】【底】【是】【谁】？ 【怎】【么】【以】【前】【没】【有】【听】【说】【过】，【似】【乎】【突】【然】【就】【冒】【了】【出】【来】。 “【说】【说】【这】【个】【银】【环】。” 【多】【了】【解】【一】【些】，【以】【后】【终】【究】【是】【要】【碰】【上】【的】。 【这】【个】【人】【犹】【豫】【了】【一】【下】，【看】【其】【神】【色】【和】【眼】【神】，
Yy【流】【媒】【体】【插】【件】【嵌】【入】【到】【微】【软】【的】【系】【统】【当】【中】，【可】【以】【成】【为】【一】【个】【非】【常】【重】【要】【的】【流】【量】【入】【口】，【借】【助】【这】【个】【入】【口】【可】【以】【推】【广】【软】【云】【其】【他】【的】【应】【用】【产】【品】。 【嘿】【嘿】【一】【笑】，【方】【天】【心】【里】【也】【有】【自】【己】【的】【算】【盘】。 【上】【一】【辈】【子】，【大】【名】【鼎】【鼎】【的】Adobe Flash Player【就】【是】【这】【么】【干】【的】，【许】【多】【玩】【电】【脑】【的】【人】【都】【不】【知】【道】【这】【是】【个】【啥】【玩】【意】。 【但】【这】【款】【应】【用】【可】【是】2017新版跑狗图下载“【干】【嘛】【要】【因】【为】【他】【们】【这】【样】【的】【人】【而】【生】【气】【呢】，【多】【累】【啊】！” 【颜】【书】【予】【现】【在】【可】【是】【越】【来】【越】【觉】【得】，【为】【白】【筱】【萱】【和】【邵】【子】【恒】【那】【样】【的】【人】【生】【气】，【简】【直】【就】【是】【自】【己】【给】【自】【己】【找】【没】【趣】。 【封】【早】【本】【来】【还】【很】【气】【愤】，【但】【是】，【听】【了】【颜】【书】【予】【的】【话】【之】【后】，【瞬】【间】【也】【觉】【得】，【颜】【书】【予】【说】【得】【很】【有】【道】【理】【啊】，【为】【白】【筱】【萱】【和】【邵】【子】【恒】【他】【们】【生】【气】，【还】【真】【的】【是】，【浪】【费】【感】【情】【啊】！ 【他】【们】【那】【样】【的】
【尽】【管】【延】【兴】【门】【已】【破】，【部】【分】【河】【朔】【联】【军】【已】【顺】【利】【进】【城】，【但】【何】【弘】【敬】【始】【终】【没】【有】【踏】【入】【延】【兴】【门】【半】【步】。 【因】【为】【何】【弘】【敬】【知】【道】，【尽】【管】【自】【己】【是】【勤】【王】【之】【师】，【但】【只】【要】【李】【忱】【没】【有】【开】【口】，【自】【己】【便】【永】【远】【不】【能】【和】【大】【军】【同】【时】【出】【现】【在】【京】【城】【之】【内】。 【这】【是】【做】【臣】【子】【的】【本】【分】，【更】【是】【庙】【堂】【之】【内】【的】【生】【存】【之】【道】。 【尤】【其】【在】【这】【个】【时】【候】，【李】【忱】【的】【态】【度】【越】【是】【晦】【暗】【不】【明】，【何】【弘】【敬】【便】【越】【要】
【装】【修】【好】【之】【后】“【味】【煨】【蒸】”【正】【式】【开】【业】。 【开】【业】【那】【天】，【赫】【连】【承】【明】【还】【是】【手】【捧】【着】【花】【篮】【来】【祝】【贺】【了】，【对】【于】【赫】【连】【承】【明】【的】【到】【来】，【独】【孤】【安】【琪】【甚】【是】【欣】【慰】。 【她】【看】【着】【赫】【连】【承】【明】【内】【心】【一】【阵】【感】【激】。 【这】【都】【多】【亏】【了】【独】【孤】【安】【智】，【要】【不】【是】【独】【孤】【安】【智】【从】【中】【帮】【忙】【劝】【说】，【或】【许】【赫】【连】【承】【明】【会】【很】【不】【理】【解】【独】【孤】【安】【琪】【的】【做】【法】！ 【百】【里】【萧】【萧】【跟】【西】【门】【承】【建】【也】【来】【了】，【百】【里】【萧】【萧】